from an ideologue division of the federal government. i don't have any idea how they do it. they are filled with assumptions >> i am not a believer in quips dense. i don't think there are any. part time workers jumped 600,000 for the month. 600,000 part timers. what does that tell you? >>guest: from the phone survey. well, it is surprising. surprising. it is surprising. the numbers, it does not feel that way. i went through reviews of a dozen businesses this week. no business that i talked to from food to widgets to anything, it was thought one that was stronger in the third quarter than in the thing -- second. the economic activity was downgraded in the second. it doesn't seem to correlate with this surge, all of a sudden, the month before the election in employment. one more number, 600,000 manufacturer jobs lost during the obama presidency. what does that say? >>guest: we need our competitiveness back, we need better regulation, better tax policy, better way to grow the hell out america. >> thank you very much. which will win out? today's jobs numbers that could be a posi